PiHole Problems.
February 7, 2024, 04:09
Hello there. First time installing/using PiHole and i cant seem it get it to work. i Got it all installed and im in the GUI but im lost from here. not sure how to tell the devices to use the pis DNS. or even better if i could the router. any help would be awsome
first do you have a static IP?
There are two ways.
1. In the network you probably have a DHCP server (probably in your "router") and that is offering IP addresses and DNS server configuration to your devices.
So if you change the DNS server in your DHCP server to the IP of your PiHole then will every device get the new configuration.
Note the new configuration will be active after that the DHCP lease time has expired or that you force a new configuration and that depends on the device OS.
2. You can manually specify the DNS server in each device. I don't recommend this more than for testing.
- Does your PiHole have a static IP adr?
- What OS do PiHole have?
- What OS do you have on your devices?
- Do you have access to configure your router?
Does your PiHole have a static IP adr? No i didnt see where to do that on my router config.
What OS do PiHole have? Raspbian 32bit lite
What OS do you have on your devices? Windows 10
Do you have access to configure your router? Yes, its an xfinity router.
i was gonna be setting up the PiVPN after this aswell
and i definitely wanna do it with the router, not for each device
Post the output of cat /etc/os-release
sorry, not sure what that is or where
run that command in terminal then send its result here.
the terminal should be the >_ looking icon in the bar at the top left
In the pihole gui?
Or I can just use ssh I thought
yes ssh
ssh is just the remote terminal
so just paste this in ssh
Ok got it.going to my Pc now
I have only ever used my raspberry pies for octoprint
So a lot of this stuff is new to me
VERSION="11 (bullseye)"
VERSION_CODENAME=bullseye
ID=raspbian
ID_LIKE=debian
HOME_URL="http://www.raspbian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianForums"
BUG_REPORT_URL="http://www.raspbi
sorry didnt see the first one i pasted for some reason
i can share my screen if its ok. you dont have to talk and i wont either if you wont want me to
which pi is this again?
it is also a Rpi0w
pi 4?
lol noo
i cant think of any other use for this l
you said you have access to your router interface?
yeah im looking at it rn
ok look for you ip scope and the current connected addresses
scope?
I can't give you exact instructions on this since every router interface is wildly and annoyingly different
its the range of IP address your router hands out to other devices. when you pick a static IP address you want it to be outside of this scope to prevent conflict with other devices
this maybe?
it says remote management hto
yes
it should not be empty
oh, idk then
port triggering?
like I said every router interface is annoyingly different. to the point I would never be able to give you instructions
no shouldn't be that
could i just share my screen for a sec?
The picture is for remote access filter for your router, DONT CHANGE THAT!
Look up a manual/pdf for your router and post the link here
this is the router hardware info
this would be extremely useful
oo hang on
this looks like somthing
beggining addy and ending?
that's ipv6, find ipv4
so 253?
i could do anything after 10.0.0.253?
Change 253 to 199
big scope
Yes, 2-253 = 251 devices
lmao
yup, then once you change it look at your connected devices
wtf does xfinity think im doing
will that change any of my local IPs?
check your other IPS first actually just to make sure
all are below 199
good
then you can change it fine
oh no
10.0.0.243
yeah
243 is the highest
8 devices total 2 are phones
Change it to 245 instead of 199
like this
199!
umm
lol your both saying something diff
who do i listen to!?!?
Me
I propose a even number easier to remember and you free up a bigger scoop for static IPs
the only device above 199 is her stupid google home spy thing
And if 197 devices to small for you ?
the google home thing will just get a new ip right>
Yes, after the lease time has expired, max 2 days
ehh idc fuck that thing i hope it dosnt tbh
I said something different to prevent that device changing IPS??
Just avoid the google devices IP for 2 days
we can make it 244
oh? so i gotta wait 2 days before the pihole will work?
can i just change the lease time here?
no
oh ok then
well its done 199 saved
2 days absolutely maximum if you set this until the Google home works
likely not 2 days tho
so now what? setting static IP?
google home already got a new IP
Different DHCP client asks to renew the IP after something like 50 to 75% of the leasetime, different DHCP servers has different values
Yes, now you have free up some space
ohhh um? it says TheHole has reserved IP
yes, anything like 200 or something
so just edit it above 199
ok
something in between 200-253 I would say
what about config?
reserved IP is the same as static ip right?
I think so
yes
don't set it to 15
thats what it WAS at
set it to 10.0.0.200
also, when i set up the pihold/vpn it asked about what IP im using
can i change that:?
without reinstalling?
Yes
ok i did 201
great
<@1071178789939331253> knows the menu
yes
uhhh oo
you can use to config IP on PiHole
wont let me
oh no that's an annoying part of your router
ohh nvm its just telling me
A reservation must be in the scoop, 200 is outside
oh ok good
You dont need to bother with reservation
i think
let me try to refresh
they're isn't a selection for static IP
dammit
nope
.
it wont let me save
Skip editing the device, let it be
You cant use it in that way
<@796000224690307072> can you use nmcli or nmgui on bullseye?
Yes
you can't use it without a static ip
well you can but I wouldnt suggest it
If you switch network manager with `raspi-config
great could you lead him through that?
Ok
it'd be better than the router config
Head over to your PiHole
and type sudo raspi-config
And then select "Advanced Options"
Yes SSH or the terminal
ok
im in it
sudo raspi-config
Select Advanced Options
Select Network Config
Select NetworkManager
do advanced settings?
after network manager nothing poped back up
It will take a second or two
And then you get a verification and a Reboot
is it preinstalled?
that's good
You can soon reconnect
it means the reboot worked
Yes
ohh ok
i thought i needed to change some settings
no
reconnect when you can
nothing yet
the pi zero might take a minute
if it takes longer than 2-3 mins then tell us
yeah thats what i thought
ok ill stop trying for 2 mins
green light just staying solid
Yes, take a "Swedish fika paus" 😉
that's good, it's booting
still nothing, i dont see it on connected devices either
Mine when into "emergency mode" I have connected a display
oh it blinked
can you connect a display/keyboard?
not really no
dammit
it would be extremely useful if you could attempt to find a display
i disconnect the power and ... waiting for it to boot
like a tv
i mean i have a display but im afraid to move it
the wire is janky AF
move the pi?
do i NEED a keyboard to?
press "Enter"
ok one sec let me get that stuupid mini hdmi adapter
And there it is stucked in a loop
This was the first time I tried to switch to NetworkManager
ok im in
Nice
it wants the login
your username and password
I need to reimage my SD card
oh
i cant type
its just screen...
does the pi zero have usb?
USB micro
ohh
and no
i dont have one
try another usb micro slot if it has one
no usb at all on the zero?
theres 1 for power and one for USB
Whats the message on the display, is it "login" ?
both mini
Micro
it should display a few logs above, check if one contains anything about WiFi or anything
And there is USB hubs or USB OTG that can be used to connect a USB A (keyboard) to the USB micro
im looking to see it it's working again so you can SSH
SSH to .15
thats what i been doing
Try now
try it now
nothing..
same thing
timed out
Then it has been assigned a different IP, check the router.
i did that to
its not showing up at all on router
strange. try a different keyboard now
what?
so we can debug that way
Look at the picture!
i cant plug a keyboard into it
should i just reflash it...
The picture say 10.0.0.15
yes i see
its always been that
And then you should be able to ssh to 10.0.0.15
not on device list in router gui
here ill even check on my phone
nope
this is very weird
and when i try to get on the pihole gui
Start from scratch and do one thing at a time
1. Get static IP working
2. Get PiHole installed
maybe router reset?
I wouldn't suggest it
do this with a fresh image
ok.
no
but wait
we couldnt get the static ip
well this time we dont go the NetworkManager route but the classic route
ok flashing now
and when we start should ihave monitor plugged to
so we can see wtf is going on
yes
that'd be very helpful
i did have an adapter... micro usb to femal e
That is always a nice thing to have. I have flashed Pis 100th of times so Im confident that mine process is working
but i took the 5v pin out
that be good
i also dont think my SD cards are good at all
what you desoldered it??
no sd cards are good
that's why I made the move to SSDs always a smart decision
thats the plan if microcenter ever get the pi5
I mean it's not great but you can get a SSD to micro usb adapter
im sure you guys know about the 9.999.99$ pis
No
if you buy more than 1 they are 10k
I have bought more than 1000 over the years (Have used them professional in a network environment)
1000 pis?
Yaiks
FUCKK YOUUU SCALPERS!@!!!!
70% on verifying
ok booting
ok logging in
or not...
ohh
it wasnt done...
Run
sudo apt update sudo apt upgrade
i actually atleast do know that!
Sorry, Im beginning to be a bit tired
it says its start WLAN
or Configuring it
its done,.
and nothing
Please use your camera in landscape mode
this phone sucks so bad. and im just making it worse
it wont hold a focus
its not on the router gui either again
The Zero is slow, and the WiFi is the last part in the startup
it says finished tho
yueah it never took this long before
the first boot is always the longest
nahh something is for sure wrong..
ill wait but i really think something went wrong
this is a fresh image right?
Now it is, 4-5 up to 7-8 minutes, but you are far past that
i formatted it and flashed it
formatted with the imager?
You don't need to format it, it only adds to the wear on the SD card
yes
i used pi imager
and my only other SD card im pretty sure is one of the fake ones that over writes it self
so idk the real capacity
besides 2 other ones i have deemed as dead
im flashing the knock off one...
From first boot to up and running for a Raspberry Pi 1B took 3 minutes
it solves problems sometimes tho
i usually just copy a massive file onto it and see where it fails
well maybe it is real because
it changed as soon as i took the pic
I uses a SD card tester that makes test in deepth
Thats the first step
it took WAYYY longer to do the storage thingthing
before this it was doing something with the storage
SO!? how much do you guys hate me right now?
Not at all!
yes thats a good way too
I recommend you to buy a quality SD card 😉
yes.... no more microcenter ones
your very nice to help compared to some people around here sometimes
this is bad
so for that i am greatfull and dont hate you at all. the main thing is that you listen
i think
it keeeeeeeeps going
what does that say?
<@1146306062476128278> Your attitude is nice, and thats why are helping you
end kernal panic
unable to mount root fs unkownblock
oh no
that bad
Bad SD card
i suggest a quality sd card as mentioned. you can get ones that are flashed for you if you want so you know it works
and BAD CAM
well luckly i started the other sd flash awhile ago
And you know all bad things comes in 3
84%
whats the 3rd?
the cam
hopegully
The cam was the second
The first the SD card
yeah?
oh no
there
i just stub my toe
3
Check!
that SD card came with a 3D printer i bought
bad one or good one?
MOST 3fd printers cant use anything more than 32? or 64? i forgot
thats how i know it was crap
the printer?
32 what?
its been great
32gb
oh yeah thats fine for pi tho
yeah
but im saying i knew the card was fake because of that
An advice, Raspberry Pi wear on the SD cards and when you use it with PiHole, that logs a lot it wears faster
And this is because every memory cell have a limited amount of write operations they can withstand before failing
you can turn of logging on pihole
wow
something I might do actually because pihole is logging to my sd card currently
that wasnt even 2 mins
to boot with normal sd
it booted?
And disable swap is something I also do
oh that was the first one
it said login
but then started doing things again
First run is
First boot
Reboot
Second boot
well
lets see
we are where we were before
Amongst other it resize the SD card to use the full size
It it doesn't boot now, I will close this until you have bought a quality SD card...
and this is on the SD card i i used before
o well. say i do get it working
what shoulld i do
1. Static IP
2. Install PiHole
yeah its screwd i think... thank you for trying
um wowww
i unplugged it
plugged it back in
and im in
ssh and router gui
like it was stuck on something
If you have a windows machine you can download H2testw to test the SD cards with
well its ok now
but i understand if you guys had enough lol
no it's fine
ok updating now
for a bit tho. we are deciding what's the best course of action for bullseye static IP addresses
I will go offline noww, tired.
ok cya
I might actually have to go soon just because it's getting late. so now's the time <@1146306062476128278> if your have any more questions
No
Thank you for all the help though
np
I didn't mean to send that picture
I'm just going to get pie hole and pie VPN installed and then wait cuz I don't want to f* it up anymore
thanks for being easy to help
I suggest getting static IP before pihole
same with pi vpn
Okay I'll try to figure that out
if your willing... this is your next course of action
Okay I'll check it out
bye then
Bye-bye or night night
Got a quick question when you guys are around
I have a 3B plus running a nass with an SD card is there any way I can swap the SD card for a USB without having to reinstall everything
I know that pie is able to boot from USB without having to change any settings but I just don't want to have to transfer that much data back to it
With dd you can copy the SD card 1:1 to a USB stick.
However, the USB stick should be slightly larger than the SD card.
I don't know the exact values, but I'm sure Oops.se knows them. Or you can have a look on the Internet.
it is bigger
alot lol
so you saying i can just shut it down. and literally copy and paste it over
i did get an SD card working. but its so finiky if i breath on it it
Do not copy and paste! This is different. With dd, every single bit is copied, which is important because things that are otherwise not visible to us are also copied.
sorry but what is DD?
like cloning an SSD?
i been using EaseUS Partition Master
for cloning
I don't know your program, but you have to decide for yourself what you want to use.
https://manpages.debian.org/buster/coreutils/dd.1.en.html
well what is DD
is that the same as clone?
Since I don't use clone programs, I can't say if it's the same. And whether your program really copies everything important, such as partition tables, I can't say either. Just try it, you can delete the USB stick at any time.
what does DD mean]
Everything on the SD card consists of millions of bits.
And dd copies every single one of these bits exactly 1:1.
It's best to wait for Oops, he can certainly explain this to you better or look up "copy operating system with dd" on the Internet.
pi 3b? no it can't you have to change something in the config
btw my router can not change the DNS
the have it locked.
ugh
even when i change it on the device
it wont
what? they can't change that I don't think
With Windows, Linux and Android, you can set DNS in the device. However, you should enter an alternative DNS in case your Pi is unavailable.
It's just more work ^^
Yeah you CAN. I have it set up with ipv4 but Comcast/Xfinity is using ipv6 to resolve
Really trying to figure out. Work around but Comcast is stupid....
Just like me
I might just have to say screw it and only do the vpn.
Or get a static IPv6 somehow...
And I printed a nice little case for it to already...
I'ma keep digging see what I can find
Yeah
so IPV4 ads are blocked but not 6
screw comcast/xfinity
Any idea where i change the PW for pihole
<@796000224690307072> recommendations on good SD cards?
or would i be able to use one of those SD ribbon cable adapters
like these
but not SD to SD
SD to USB
Yes, you can make an image of the SD-card and then transferer that to the USB storage. Follow this guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY0xU4pVGeA
but is there an adapter for things that wont let me use USB
No, you need to program the OTP EEPROM to enable USB boot
not with 3b+
atleast i didnt have to
with the regular 3b you do
No, I buy well known brands
well thats what i wanted to know
what are some brands you had good experiences with
I have just bad experiences with all SD cards as I have weared them out from logging and usage
So I will not answer that question
the pi 5 also supports USB out the box?
Pi 4 and 5 can boot from USB by default
lol so can 3b+
3b no
Pi 3+ needs the OTP to be programmed to enable USB boot
If you have a Pi 3B+, then you shouldn't need to do anything as USB boot is already supported "out of the box". Only for a "standard" Pi 3B should you need to configure config. txt ...
well idk then mine workd USB rright away
With any previous models you can have /boot on a SD card and / on an USB storage
alright, last oone.
Whats the best class/fasteset SD card the pi can use
or is that more of a SD card limitation
I have no idea. I have seen several articles with different values.
oh im stupid.
that wont matter anymore when i get the new pis
im just worried when i clone the SD to USB it wont know the location
I uses 8,16 and 32GB as I know that they are safe
it will think it should be in the SD slot
welp we will find out!
omg...
well this drive is toast
When booting, Pi will look for a device with FAT partition, and when It finds one it will look for the files for starting.
And the default boot order is SD, USB, Network
Thats the sign of a fake drive
no way... its from microcenter
Inland
they selling fake shit...
i mean it was fre...
I bought a 2TB SSD that I highly suspected to be fake (for testing purpose) and it was a fake
i cant believe that
microcenter!
If it was a wear down SD you should see some sporadic red areas
yeah it went grewwwn to red right away
batards... ima test the other inland i got now
i cant find the real H2W site
i know you linked it
atleast i thought you did
The tool you use does the same as H2W
Yes thats the one
thats the fan made site
is at the bottom
inm using EaseUS partition master
That will also do the trick
Its just about writing something to a cell and read it back, and then repeate for the next cell
welp ok ill stick with t then
that test i did was a Surface scan i think it was called
well. im never using inland again
free or not
if i crack these SSDs open ill be able to tell what kind of chips are on there?
I was involved in a security test 25 years ago when we dropped a carbon box on a parking lot, and it contained infected USB sticks. And guess how many of them made its wai into the corp. and put into the corp.computers by employees. And two weeks in before we had a "security policy training" at that site....
a shit ton
most of them i bet
The SSD drive I bought has a SD card soldered on the internal PCB
and now you got the cables that are even worse
93%
Yes
lucky it wasy you
or someone woulda had a good day
and someone else would be getting fired
I know that that method was used by the bad guys.
its really starting to get bad tho
im sure you saw this already
A leak of 26 billion records earned the title of “Mother of All Breaches” (MOAB) and widespread attention. Bob Diachenko, cofounder and cyber threat intelligence director at Security Discovery, a cybersecurity news and consulting services company, and the team at Cybernews first discovered the leak.Jan 31, 2024
what is that?
that bot when i post a link
also where the hell do i change my pihole PW
pihole --help